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Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 01:51:32 +1000
Subject: Re: Future standard GUI library
From: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:
>> But there's another option that is available to every platform and
>> (practially) every high level language: the web browser. Make your app
>> serve HTTP and do up your UI in HTML5/CSS3 - your facilities are
>> pretty extensive. Plus you get networking support for free! Obviously
>> this option isn't for everyone, but don't discount it out of hand.
>
> Both the concept and actually implemented examples of so-called "web
> applications" prove that they are just plain garbage and hopelessly
> unusable for anything remotely resembling actual screenwork.
>
> HTML forms may be at best useful for "web shops", but for actual
> screenwork, HTML is not a valid GUI, no matter how much javascript you
> add to it.

All depends on your requirements. For the Yosemite Project, I wanted
the networking aspect, so the web browser UI was a good one. It's been
working beautifully for... what, four or six years now, I think; and
it's just a few pages of Python.

ChrisA