Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ruud de Jong Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: empty clause of for loops Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:37:00 +0100 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <56E93413.6090108@mail.de> <56E94EB9.9050507@mail.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 2JA5OFhDQB1c52bdzDYLpQXl8AxuFKReklAb6kUKalFA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'finished,': 0.07; 'considered.': 0.09; 'empty,': 0.09; 'throw': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'syntax': 0.13; 'empty.': 0.16; 'from:addr:xs4all.nl': 0.16; 'hypothetical': 0.16; 'object()': 0.16; 'received:194.109': 0.16; 'received:194.109.24': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'received:xs4all.nl': 0.16; 'sequence:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'exceptions': 0.22; '(or': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'feature': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'room': 0.27; 'least': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'cool': 0.27; 'sequence': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'implement': 0.32; 'reference,': 0.33; 'handle': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'item': 0.35; 'according': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'assigned': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'received:194': 0.61; 'disclaimer:': 0.67; 'received:nl': 0.72; "'for'": 0.84; '8.3': 0.84; 'answer:': 0.84; 'conceived': 0.84; 'otten': 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84; 'syntax:': 0.84; 'severe': 0.91 In-Reply-To: X-Sender: ruud.de.jong@xs4all.nl (Cg5e4CFEQvk1Gh4bEcdc1Wvmx4ozU3vK) User-Agent: XS4ALL Webmail X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 09:45:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:105025 Peter Otten schreef op 2016-03-16 13:57: > If you don't like exceptions implement (or find) something like > > items = peek(items) > if items.has_more(): > # at least one item > for item in items: > ... > else: > # empty > > Only if such a function is used a lot or cannot be conceived without > severe > shortcumings adding to the syntax should be considered. The > (hypothetical) > question you should answer: which current feature would you throw out > to > make room for your cool new addition? No need for hypothetical functions or syntax: x = sentinal = object() for x in sequence: # handle x if x is sentinal: # sequence was empty. Disclaimer: not tested because I don't have access to Python from my working location. But it should work according to the language reference, section 8.3 on the 'for' statement: "Names in the target list are not deleted when the loop is finished, but if the sequence is empty, they will not have been assigned to at all by the loop." Regards, Ruud