Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.058 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'mess': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'closures': 0.16; 'driscoll': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'magic': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'exists': 0.18; 'pieces': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.21; 'decorator': 0.22; 'fraction': 0.22; 'function,': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'code,': 0.23; '2015': 0.23; 'sat,': 0.23; "i've": 0.24; 'seems': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mike': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'actual': 0.29; 'decimal': 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'becomes': 0.31; 'up.': 0.32; 'anyone': 0.32; 'realize': 0.32; 'int': 0.33; 'quickly': 0.34; 'subject:?': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'wrong': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'takes': 0.39; 'data': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'even': 0.61; "you'll": 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; 'real': 0.61; '30,': 0.63; 'great': 0.64; 'between': 0.65; 'differences': 0.66; 'talking': 0.67; 'computers': 0.70; 'finally': 0.70; 'discover': 0.73; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'complex,': 0.84; 'float,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.90; 'fun!': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=+iKXVDKYC66vovL1HPbOVmhNJdEvOFLLyuNmMe74lOQ=; b=e2jqvZvT9T0ySwHp3dAh5lfZGEEw/sD6XiRgHBTRUJI9pRK/Jt4zzEjoZWhGI5Hz8C 82Cf7SuOODmNGP8Jr/iTjIZgGpWbwgtJP0xPO9IHcbvILE1BTWt4+W9cf/CXexuQonwg leuM5CL8UosT1TIb4zmqy+A7fGQT5i4GZWsliUYy2Kby5nk34IUCucOIh8uJzY1Z643B QwYKAIT2pi6AGEuxZo/LrcyULq1LK+Ms6Ae8WI29PHuoSDW4XGNgZaWL/9dF+C8PXrlF nqEq2QO5aSAy9MYBzjwOzylDUiL81Xw1T8/BQqrIz7VQuo+8eyyALVl8u5J+to1j+eDW RtXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.154.65 with SMTP id p1mr2483869icw.26.1432919301834; Fri, 29 May 2015 10:08:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <28cec7df-0f51-4098-b027-72e913a9b656@googlegroups.com> References: <28cec7df-0f51-4098-b027-72e913a9b656@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 03:08:21 +1000 Subject: Re: What is considered an "advanced" topic in Python? From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1432919309 news.xs4all.nl 2839 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45360 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91485 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Mike Driscoll wrote: >> >> Good fun! A few ideas: >> >> How to write decorators, particularly those that take parameters. > > Yes, this one always seems to trip people up. It's like a Sherlock Holmes pronouncement. When you see something like Flask's app.route(), or functools.wraps(), it's pure magic and completely incomprehensible. But break it down into little pieces (a function that takes a function and returns a function, then decorator syntax, then closures and the ability to call the original, and finally a decorator factory function, which is what a parameterized decorator is), and it becomes elementary. >> The differences between the various number types (int, float, complex, >> Fraction, Decimal) and when you'd want each one. > > I hadn't considered this one It's not often an actual *problem* - I've never seen anyone pick the wrong data type and mess up their code, not in Python - but it's a great way to explore some of the differences between real numbers and what computers work with. Also, I like talking about Fraction and Decimal for the simple reason that they're unobvious; you can poke around with Python and discover int and float, and if ever you need imaginary/complex numbers, you'll quickly come across complex, but you might use Python for years and not realize that decimal.Decimal even exists - nor when you'd want it. ChrisA