Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subsequent': 0.04; 'cache': 0.05; 'key.': 0.07; '"a"': 0.09; 'before.': 0.09; 'imports': 0.09; 'subtle': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; '"b"': 0.16; 'subject:dictionaries': 0.16; 'sys.modules': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'instance': 0.17; 'library,': 0.17; 'module,': 0.17; "shouldn't": 0.17; 'import': 0.21; 'thanks.': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'script': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'common': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'usually': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'another': 0.33; 'third': 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'october': 0.37; 'one,': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'behavior': 0.64; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'cycles.': 0.84; 'otten': 0.84; 'seriously,': 0.91 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:10:40 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michele Simionato Subject: Re: surprising behaviour of global dictionaries References: <40ac555b-71c2-445e-814b-6bd1d037dbee@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:SEdOFujiRw9zkhXq+fVPb7pq7eKc1zsXBR3aWdIYKMN Q0z5ezNOosgacUAIjw54NExRPlNMmCjOAy/yzp1MWr9tw3acNj QRlqt+qHARYlxeJl//mRPHDyYLrYaeCXqcqbY7USGNqVrl4B+1 eyQvFM935yaRg5n1JVQebAo9RlyyJn+UM7BcdzxBy3jvSc/jNK AxElIwg3u6LfNpCEPipg8VvN1Pr8QiNYELoWt5MQLsEL5+cYKB AIznSOtg0FGtxRT9WD/4gtWiDgMhrlJtxFgkJ96zcT8C4ByJH+ zJc3PwP+D3gXhEX4iJBhpbLcuZLgnKC8ZmLixg8s3JZntKwbA= = Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1349799062 news.xs4all.nl 6986 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53087 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31046 On 10/09/2012 11:36 AM, Michele Simionato wrote: > On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:24:17 PM UTC+2, Peter Otten wrote: >> Seriously, you shouldn't use the main script as a library; it is put into >> >> the sys.modules cache under the "__main__" key. Subsequent imports under its >> >> real name will not find that name in the cache and import another instance >> >> of the module, with puzzling effects > Actually I usually never use the main script as a library, this is why I never experience this puzzling behavior before. But now it is clear, thanks. More generally, you should arrange your imports so that there are no cycles. If module/script "a" imports "b", directly or indirectly, "b" should not try to import "a." Move the common code to a third place, and import it from both "a" and from "b". The other symptoms you can get are more subtle than this one, but just as surprising. -- DaveA