Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'rcs': 0.09; 'release,': 0.09; 'release.': 0.09; 'yet.': 0.15; '"release': 0.16; ':o)': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'nevertheless': 0.16; 'released.': 0.16; 'subject:Release': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.18; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'feb': 0.22; 'important,': 0.23; 'that!': 0.23; 'writes:': 0.25; 'candidate': 0.26; 'saying': 0.26; 'cc:2**0': 0.26; 'not.': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'definition': 0.30; '*and*': 0.30; 'candidate.': 0.30; 'sun,': 0.30; 'yes.': 0.30; 'chris': 0.30; "isn't": 0.33; 'sort': 0.33; "can't": 0.33; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'thank': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'either': 0.37; 'announce': 0.38; 'i.e.': 0.39; 'unless': 0.39; 'release': 0.40; 'more': 0.61; 'immediate': 0.61; 'hope': 0.61; 'subject': 0.61; 'pleased': 0.65; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.65; '26,': 0.73; 'confusion.': 0.91; 'candidate,': 0.95 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,491,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="194668" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.sequans.com Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:23:00 +0100 From: Jean-Michel Pichavant User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100328) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Finney Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Release candidates for Python 2.6.8, 2.7.3, 3.1.5, and 3.2.3 References: <87ty2ern8j.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87haydss3w.fsf@benfinney.id.au> In-Reply-To: <87haydss3w.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1330352582 news.xs4all.nl 6856 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48681 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20941 Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > > >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Ben Finney wrote: >> > > >>> If you're pleased to announce their immediate availability, then >>> please do that! >>> >> Isn't it perfectly accurate to say that the RCs are now available? >> > > Yes. What's not reasonable is to say that a candidate for release – i.e. > something *prior to* release, by definition – is nevertheless released. > > >> Considering that "Release candidates" immediately followed "RELEASED" >> in the subject line, I don't see any confusion. >> > > Unless “release candidate” means nothing like what those words imply, it > can't be both a release candidate *and* released. > > Either it's released, or it's not. If it's a release candidate, it's not > released yet. If it's released, it's no longer a candidate for release. > > Saying it's simultaneously both is the confusion. > > What sort of release can you release ? A release candidate. If you can release a release candidate, a release candidate can be released, hence the released candidate release. More important, we all thank the release team for their efforts and hope they're having fun reading us :o) JM