Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.072 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'arguments': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'aiming': 0.16; 'behaviour.': 0.16; 'cease': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'people:': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'threads.': 0.16; 'discussion': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'community,': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'precise': 0.24; 'propose': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; 'becoming': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'diversity': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'compatible': 0.32; 'community': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'earth': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'volume': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'contributing': 0.60; 'making': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'debate': 0.68; 'risk': 0.72; 'saw': 0.77; 'participants': 0.83; 'dozens': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'tone': 0.84; 'welcoming': 0.84; 'faith,': 0.91; 'subject:+': 0.91; 'reducing': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea. Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:11:28 +1100 References: <6f2b7$525f2302$5419b3e4$13466@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <774fd$526a559c$5419b3e4$11247@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <32495$526f9dfe$5419b3e4$14369@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <526fc14f$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5b3f2903-2ab1-4cda-a503-7ffad5d5b7a7@googlegroups.com> <5270ddd6$0$6512$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <425ea0db-41c7-4244-91b5-3e48d48e206c@googlegroups.com> <527217a4$0$29884$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <90f57eb4-7fff-47e8-86f1-d0fa717cc181@googlegroups.com> <52733eed$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5275dc67$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52769AAF.2070508@rece.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rasputin.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vkkovpNa3RJm3aylMdDJmf8orOo= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1383516703 news.xs4all.nl 15982 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:58414 Antoon Pardon writes: > Op 03-11-13 06:17, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > > I'm trying hard to give up threads like this, where people debate > > the subjective tone of an email and ever more pedantic arguments > > about the precise wording. Even when all participants are arguing in > > good faith, they risk becoming quagmires which go nowhere in dozens > > of posts. > > So it seems you want this to be a welcoming community, as long as we > don't propose you to change your own behaviour. We aim to be a community that always welcomes diversity of people. This does not entail always welcoming bad behaviour. Steven is aiming to change his behaviour to make the community more welcoming of people: he is aiming to cease contributing to threads where the bad behaviour is an interminable discussion of tone and pedantry. This is, as I see it, wholly compatible with making the community more welcoming to people, by reducing the volume of such threads. -- \ Eccles: “I just saw the Earth through the clouds!” Lew: “Did | `\ it look round?” Eccles: “Yes, but I don't think it saw me.” | _o__) —The Goon Show, _Wings Over Dagenham_ | Ben Finney