Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.118 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.77; '*S*': 0.01; '21,': 0.07; '22m': 0.16; '728': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'sort': 0.21; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'python2.7': 0.29; 'tail': 0.29; 'install': 0.29; 'distribute': 0.30; 'skip:- 10': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'nov': 0.35; 'skip:. 20': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:10': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.60; 'offer.': 0.78; 'received:10.94': 0.84; 'skip:. 50': 0.84; 'skip:. 60': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-mainz.de; i=@uni-mainz.de; q=dns/txt; s=ironport; t=1353574625; x=1385110625; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version: in-reply-to; bh=/bOd9IY2lVhQjdhYs6iSS0JtLQ5kNDG0+iPGOotVGTE=; b=OedZpCIZkpPGnpMW08wiR+Ikq2rrse1OEH9fnxUk5JfUNd1+mBSbIKLe RMF9R4hPCquxOuFHdLKqvFoU+bxNYfMzGnAWpZOhxH3YRnSoyJFY1SAwu zLHfzDRUpawzGXyFP8F7Wgk+wNRVAy18yYvRk91M/Igkx79JGe/MNBf1f w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAKborVAKXgZQ/2dsb2JhbABEwjNzgh4BAQU6TwsYHhAUKSCIJL9fjDSBKoJGYQOVfgGQQYJwghg Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:56:52 +0100 From: Thomas Bach To: Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity References: <20121121094939.2be7ebf0809c1959538f8166@lavabit.com> <20121121105703.83afe07ede3c397cf7529092@lavabit.com> <20121121124952.8942ed83a63f916350394256@lavabit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121121124952.8942ed83a63f916350394256@lavabit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Originating-IP: [94.219.177.91] X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1353574627 news.xs4all.nl 6843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54086 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33794 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:49:52PM -0800, rh wrote: > > wheezy + "myvirtualenv" = 3.3MB > pyramid = 92MB $ mkvirtualenv --no-site-packages -p python2.7 pyramid $ pip install -U distribute $ pip install pyramid $ du -h .virtualenvs/pyramid 22M .virtualenvs/pyramid $ du -s .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/* | sort -n | tail -n 5 728 .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip-1.1-py2.7.egg 1556 .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools 1724 .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/zope 2044 .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/chameleon 6312 .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pyramid I think 22 MB are OK given the functionality Pyramid has to offer. Just my 2 cents, Thomas.