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Op 03-11-13 06:17, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:22:38 +0000, Joshua Landau wrote:
> [...]
>> Sure, you in all probability didn't mean it like that but rurpy isn't
>> uncalled for in raising the concern. Really I just want to remind you
>> that you're both on the same side here.
> 
> Thanks for the comments Joshua, but I'm afraid I cannot agree. I gave it 
> a lot of thought and I cannot continue to give Rurpy the presumption of 
> good faith any longer. This saddens me, but that's the way it is.
> 
> I'm trying hard to give up threads like this, where people debate the 
> subjective tone of an email and ever more pedantic arguments about the 
> precise wording. Even when all participants are arguing in good faith, 
> they risk becoming quagmires which go nowhere in dozens of posts.

I'm not so sure it is all in good faith. I see a lot of persons digging
in their heels and not much effort in trying to understand someone else's
point of view.

-- 
Antoon Pardon