Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'yet.': 0.04; 'cpython': 0.05; 'true,': 0.05; 'url:pipermail': 0.05; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'deprecated': 0.09; 'formatting': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'target,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'missed': 0.12; 'windows': 0.15; '14:26,': 0.16; 'deprecated,': 0.16; 'deprecated.': 0.16; 'formatting.': 0.16; 'phase,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'this?': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'skip': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'url:bugs': 0.29; 'andrew': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'definition': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'starting': 0.37; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'track': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'moving': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'eye': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'soon': 0.63; 'six': 0.68; 'soon.': 0.71; 'eight': 0.74; '9.1': 0.84; 'freebsd': 0.84; 'gleam': 0.84; 'url:python-dev': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WtowzDtQtTkJ4AvFTH7fNJPFp2Hupo3JjNS8JtSlmfk=; b=xSyM2wi1CEj7i5xjsPUpVZOmaohOMev1u6m/8UOfyf9hj8XzOuIuKUeCEjLU+d3S4g 1Rgevq/K5SFchptOXuplf5bqAbx+Q7l/xlXSSfNlTrSb3/3B4TYDKs7LsJGJLD1g+Puu EZnyL8jzfBU/kkn6/9u8jM0zF/wMK/zY7aovpcNGzTFLyOHMX8+1lREB0bjm1+jb/WQb Dk2j1EBWb1GPicnj5dkSDDnjkCr3AwsLIrsxGFjITxhDU0U8/bRaeSHr6g8F7BR/f0Bb +NTRckvamU9dpq6baWgd3cxgtW6fD9G1m6pVELHGHDFfL9QoLte8TgGDewvzcfeF3ruQ Mkmw== X-Received: by 10.50.107.106 with SMTP id hb10mr10008107igb.25.1369193883964; Tue, 21 May 2013 20:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 22:38:01 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "comp.lang.python" Subject: Re: PEP 378: Format Specifier for Thousands Separator References: <519c348a$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <519c348a$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1369193886 news.xs4all.nl 15928 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49528 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45705 On 2013.05.21 21:59, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:53:54 -0500, Andrew Berg wrote: > >> On 2013.05.21 14:26, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >>> Please stop perpetuating this myth, see >>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-February/116789.html >>> and http://bugs.python.org/issue14123 >>> >> What myth? > > The myth that % string formatting is deprecated. It is not deprecated. Skip didn't say that it was deprecated. >> but no one said % formatting was going away soon. > > True, but only for the definition "no one = all the people who insist > that % is deprecated, or soon to be deprecated". Perhaps I missed something, but who is insisting this? > What happens in Python 4000 is irrelevant. If somebody is trying to > "future proof" their code for a version that *may never exist*, and if it > does exist is likely to be six or eight years away from even starting the > design phase, they are wasting their time. It is hard enough to track a > moving target, it is impossible to track a target that isn't even a gleam > in GvR's eye yet. I think you misunderstand. I'm not suggesting that format() be used simply because % formatting could be deprecated at some unknown time years from now; I was clarifying the status of % formatting. -- CPython 3.3.2 | Windows NT 6.2.9200 / FreeBSD 9.1