Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.252 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.51; '*S*': 0.02; '(it': 0.16; 'apology': 0.16; 'attributed': 0.16; 'due.': 0.16; 'lying,': 0.16; 'mouth.': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'appropriate': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'putting': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'points': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'explained': 0.31; 'received:192.168.1.3': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; '(including': 0.33; 'reader': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'false': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'needed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'matter': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'email addr:yahoo.com': 0.64; 'due': 0.66; 'safe': 0.72; 'obvious': 0.74; 'careless': 0.84; 'disagreement': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'received:195.238': 0.84; 'received:195.238.6': 0.84; 'received:belgacom.be': 0.84; 'received:isp.belgacom.be': 0.84; 'avoided.': 0.91; 'feelings': 0.91; 'subject:+': 0.91; 'refuse': 0.93 X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAJvddFJQyLEg/2dsb2JhbAANTbEvkl+BOIMZAQEBAwF4EQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBMxITBgICh2sDCQuqEooSiRSMaIJ3FoQYA5YlgWWMUocfgT8 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:15:38 +0100 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130922 Icedove/17.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea. References: <6f2b7$525f2302$5419b3e4$13466@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <774fd$526a559c$5419b3e4$11247@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <32495$526f9dfe$5419b3e4$14369@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <526fc14f$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5b3f2903-2ab1-4cda-a503-7ffad5d5b7a7@googlegroups.com> <5270ddd6$0$6512$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <425ea0db-41c7-4244-91b5-3e48d48e206c@googlegroups.com> <527217a4$0$29884$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <90f57eb4-7fff-47e8-86f1-d0fa717cc181@googlegroups.com> <5f4a4fee-4dcd-41de-bbb3-58244ce81a01@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <5f4a4fee-4dcd-41de-bbb3-58244ce81a01@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:19:48 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1383391189 news.xs4all.nl 15878 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49495 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:58321 Op 02-11-13 02:51, rurpy@yahoo.com schreef: > On 11/01/2013 06:50 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 01-11-13 05:41, rurpy@yahoo.com schreef: >>> On 10/31/2013 02:41 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know whether you are deliberately lying, or whether you're just >>>> such a careless reader that you have attributed words actually written by >>>> Skybuck to me, but either way I expect an apology from you for putting >>>> false words into my mouth. >>> >>> An apology is due when someone does some damage to things >>> or people (including reputation or feelings) that should >>> have been avoided. >>> >>> My overstating your disagreement with Skybuck was inadvertent, >>> does not change the points I was making (it does not matter >>> whether you thought he was wrong or nutty) and did no >>> significant damage to you or your reputation. >> >> It seems rather obvious from Steven's reaction, your overstatement >> hurt (damaged) his feelings. > > It it not obvious to me at all. Shouldn't you be erring on the safe side? Rather issue an appology when it may not be really needed than refuse to give one when it may be appropiate? >> Since you ackowleged that damaged >> feelings are cause for an apology, it seems by your own words >> an apology is due. > > I explained why an apology was not appropriate previously. No you didn't. What you did was trying to minimize your contribution. -- Antoon Pardon