Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.077 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.85; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'problem).': 0.16; 'streams.': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'unlike': 0.19; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'cool': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'lot.': 0.31; 'problem': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'c++': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'flow': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'liked': 0.60; 'high': 0.63; 'useful.': 0.68; 'family': 0.73; "everything's": 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Dr6kRINf+LhzoXOHP8DuuFNttT+8Z541/xl59DgksbI=; b=ZFGm2R45heigSHoDJpvVIcXVV2jwdePeC3xhJpiwZ6M6AnRhB1vaxW8d18sguQjzKZ sBMDAx2QsqKKXSl3SYWpT0VMUR1H61mjn96wxxtUP2PtJJdflGvkSql4pOqGRbZ0cWfx yOlQdTkhdrDVmmB3sM9ni+W3zV/E/f9wQ2LckysuzaySEIUA6riwhlkfQ65b0Aoykmdc 7A1TXeJDdxbAmdovn2+Wx0NdHKSHj0cMUPnmb1piDAil4VaWzMMNMHgOphIT6N7Dh1Ok ho4fabQD9zznPMUnB/rGh5wkWSsn5nvveE4Eynp0WHuvH16VtyPUBjo5gx2GEEvaxJ5h XueA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.119.172 with SMTP id kv12mr5747432pab.34.1383355108074; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7dd31a7c-f760-4e37-a236-79df7fc07ec8@googlegroups.com> References: <7dd31a7c-f760-4e37-a236-79df7fc07ec8@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:18:27 +1100 Subject: Re: Python wart From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1383355111 news.xs4all.nl 15975 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53087 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:58304 On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Peter Cacioppi wrote: > In general, I liked all the C++ additions a lot. I really liked the STL. But I don't know what Bjarne was thinking with the streams. It does look cool on paper. You can "see" the flow of data. Everything's type-safe - unlike C's scanf family (though, again, sscanf in a high level language can get around that problem). The only problem is, it doesn't actually help much in code. It's snazzy but not all that useful. ChrisA