Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed1.swip.net!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'widely': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'correct.': 0.07; 'granted,': 0.07; 'subject:Questions': 0.07; 'generators': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'imports': 0.16; 'inclusive.': 0.16; 'libraries.': 0.16; 'pulling': 0.16; 'received:mac.com': 0.16; 'sorts': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'appropriate': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'received:10.0.1': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**1': 0.23; 'refers': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; '(for': 0.26; 'am,': 0.29; 'array': 0.29; 'points': 0.29; 'along': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'libraries': 0.31; 'ray': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:10': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'performance': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'received:17': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'bill': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'took': 0.61; 'strictly': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'power': 0.76; 'william': 0.81; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'liberty': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87; '2013,': 0.91; 'subject:2013': 0.95 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-11-01_05:2013-11-01,2013-11-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1311010157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013 From: William Ray Wing In-reply-to: <5273EE36.1030104@stoneleaf.us> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:17:45 -0400 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <8A8EF93E-D6CB-4A1F-BF6C-AADA9C422422@mac.com> <5273EE36.1030104@stoneleaf.us> To: Ethan Furman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: python-list@python.org, William Ray Wing X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1383337083 news.xs4all.nl 15903 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51865 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:58289 On Nov 1, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 11/01/2013 08:42 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: >>=20 >> Granted, this performance is based on pulling in libraries. It = imports numpy, mathplotlib, and wx to handle the fast array = calculations, the plotting, and the GUI respectively, but those are = exactly the sorts of "batteries included" libraries that give Python so = much power and flexibility. >=20 > Not to take away from your points about Python, combined with the = appropriate libraries, being fast enough, but the "batteries included" = refers to what comes in the stdlib -- those three libraries are not in = the stdlib, so they're more along the lines of "power generators easily = acquired". :) >=20 > -- > ~Ethan~ > --=20 > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Strictly speaking, you are absolutely correct. But, those three = libraries are SO widely available (for so many platforms), I took the = liberty of being inclusive. Thanks, Bill=