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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:08:54 -0700
From: Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us>
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On 11/01/2013 08:42 AM, William Ray Wing wrote:
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> Granted, this performance is based on pulling in libraries.  It imports numpy, mathplotlib, and wx to handle the fast array calculations, the plotting, and the GUI respectively, but those are exactly the sorts of "batteries included" libraries that give Python so much power and flexibility.

Not to take away from your points about Python, combined with the appropriate libraries, being fast enough, but the 
"batteries included" refers to what comes in the stdlib -- those three libraries are not in the stdlib, so they're more 
along the lines of "power generators easily acquired".  :)

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~Ethan~