Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'beginner': 0.05; 'newbie': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'library': 0.15; 'awesome.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:search': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '(or': 0.18; 'windows': 0.19; 'statement': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'common': 0.26; 'compiled': 0.27; 'functions.': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'searches': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'read,': 0.29; 'basic': 0.30; 'function': 0.30; 'url:python': 0.32; 'file': 0.32; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'print': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'done': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'wanted': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'far': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'easier': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'help': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'results': 0.65; 'william': 0.78; 'friend': 0.81; 'offline.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: python docs search for 'print' Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:43:25 +0100 References: <50464153.5090402@gmail.com> <72C47821-7993-4B5E-89F2-5C79142A5791@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-113-43.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 In-Reply-To: <72C47821-7993-4B5E-89F2-5C79142A5791@mac.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120904-1, 04/09/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1346794985 news.xs4all.nl 6978 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43293 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:28427 On 04/09/2012 19:38, William R. Wing (Bill Wing) wrote: > On Sep 4, 2012, at 1:58 PM, David Hoese wrote: > >> A friend made me aware of this: >> When a python beginner (2.x) quick searches for "print" on docs.python.org, the print function doesn't even come up in the top 20 results. The print statement isn't even listed as far as I can tell. Is there something that can be done about this to make it easier for beginners? >> >> I understand that this is a very basic search and "print" is a very common word and a very basic python statement, but it's pretty difficult for a beginner to learn when the first 5 results are about the disassembler and the next 5 are C functions. >> >> -Dave >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > +100 (or some very large number). This is a general problem in searching the python library reference ("keep this under your pillow"). Try searching for list, iter, read, or write or any one of a whole bunch of things a newbie would logically be looking for. (Or even a not-quite-newbie who wanted to check some detail.) > > -Bill > > I never have a problem with this because the compiled help file on windows is awesome. It even works offline. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.