Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'received:98.138.91': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'libraries.': 0.09; '-edk': 0.16; 'email name:e_d_k': 0.16; 'from:addr:e_d_k': 0.16; 'from:name:ed keith': 0.16; 'keith': 0.16; 'looked': 0.16; 'received:98.138.90': 0.19; 'received:bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com': 0.19; 'to:2**1': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'seems': 0.21; 'blog:': 0.22; 'libraries': 0.25; 'received:98.138': 0.29; 'received:mail.ne1.yahoo.com': 0.29; 'received:ne1.yahoo.com': 0.29; 'far,': 0.30; 'received:98.138.89': 0.30; 'url:)': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "i've": 0.33; 'there': 0.35; 'charset :us-ascii': 0.36; 'skip:e 20': 0.37; 'url:org': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'third': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'email addr:yahoo.com': 0.63; 'received:98.138.90.53': 0.84 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 790782.20281.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1306094463; bh=/FuqSE0tY8Un0htUDN1uu1QDkYNRCHG0KHvGJgd+NCc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j65tC7TgfdCTEQV8u9FD0gxfWZUsOmbQSeRIEChhH2bRz0CShuHc3RGMdF34I3e1Qaktkm3eiwemujB3z8LTWage/lWKBbze6pGh5B6cVNZjPZwoAVdsGTuHh9sflo8n0RwY1Q53h6gegsz+SMuh9B+jq2ZgogamIiaU0V46W0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vMypJh9OZOCYxenMDj2JuM+s2bg03XBIBlUvCNWYWq75yf3SJruGuzKLvWNuGi0snqHWKB1BuBgnnQhMDo08bqfVOps8rdIDD9k6y4JFvBuZBZeF7Y5GIKECpQMzp641GvbzLVErU8Xvr6uE11dPTLVQGUsayeQnye7UihfaT1g=; X-YMail-OSG: QmHidlUVM1nUl0da6x8xW1dm_whvD4NjkyOi_ji5t0dGW5V LrdXqe8MmRa7dgniitl_EVPbiRcGgSJHe_fai6WxLZkf9c0cM7lKtuPImFS4 NIidNVvKBAAb9t_hen8oZRTKR2vRwu8WnDTuMO6HMSBXuXa8Mc2i0136UnfW yHy2ZUTp5xRvsWHCvkpxgtODcTVOpWG_2TpcKAWNUjLKALoJA8Nyp4A9Kgsn OwUM1PDn25TrS9Ckp7NSdUtQWSWqMrSLqyVKP9bIXhyH_rQivdD5F_LZDpFa Ezx1nGb44yoN.nbOhqmsBCpTxEe1YuQPnkoc4YXH7iNoZx1Z3T6JFZCXTBY4 _FFlkQL4UKz6gmmpzdSoAVv4zwTyuppPQ4uo5QzysUffYDuHBJCI3lFdYMvk aMY7kuAFYCZC9eSOmnZVKMJRF_o1IPBo7vH7NexeVF7uVsyubFVzAu15ka3J HPM9IhH2tPgl7Bk3JIb6KBcT7qjKyctVdMVrMlGF3fbZmyq8b5YbagKd1Rb3 xUnqwhXIMUIeniBMow8k37M0IvOZM X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.1 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.303096 Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:01:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Keith Subject: Re: Abandoning Python To: python-list@python.org, John Lee In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306094595 news.xs4all.nl 49178 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:39350 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6001 Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)? It seems to have a lot of what you are looking for. I do not have much experience with it but I like what I've seen so far, except that there are not any third party tools or libraries libraries. Which is where Python shines. -EdK Ed Keith e_d_k@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com