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On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:16:36 +0000, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
declaimed the following:

>On 25/02/2015 17:00, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 25/02/2015 06:02, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is the name of that database program "Microsoft Access" perchance?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you referring to the GUI, the underlying database engine, both, or what?
>>
>> The engine. In theory it supports concurrent access. In practice, it
>> seems that access is frequently blocked by locks generated by some
>> other user who was working on it hours ago and is now out of the
>> office. Not to mention the times when the lock file gets so badly
>> corrupted that the resolution is to just delete it.
>>
>> I haven't used it in some time though, so maybe it's gotten better.
>>
>
>IIRC the underlying JET engine was replaced by SQL Server years ago. 
>Maybe not the best technlogy in the world, but you'd be hard pushed to 
>do worse than JET :)

	No... JET is still there...

	SQL Server/MSDE was used for "Access Data Projects" but I think the
last two editions of Office have dropped ADP support (you can still /link/
to SQL Server as an ODBC source, but no longer have direct/invisible
access).

	JET is a file-server database -- just like SQLite; each client is
directly interacting with the database file rather than sending requests to
a stand-alone server program where the server is the only program accessing
the data files.
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