Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'true,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'contexts': 0.09; 'false.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'camp': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'nonzero': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'shell': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'instance,': 0.24; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'unix': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'sense': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'url:org': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'convention': 0.38; 'question,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'commands': 0.60; 'success': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'url:%1': 0.72; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.77; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:Practices': 0.84; 'hate': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Python Worst Practices Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:48:21 +1100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:k0QDCIcuGTJEC/eybBxGBtn0VqQ= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424908206 news.xs4all.nl 2841 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86449 Chris Angelico writes: > (Flipping the booleans makes no sense to me. When would 0 mean true > and 1 mean false? Isn't it much more likely that, for instance, 0 > means success and nonzero means error (and maybe there's just one > error state, so 1 means failure)?) You've answered your question, I believe. In some contexts – such as Unix shell – 0 ⇒ success ⇒ true, and non-0 ⇒ failure ⇒ false. The Unix commands ‘true’ and ‘false’ follow that convention . -- \ “Know what I hate most? Rhetorical questions.” —Henry N. Camp | `\ | _o__) | Ben Finney