Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'widely': 0.05; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sanity': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; '"community".': 0.16; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'posters': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'solution.': 0.20; 'feb': 0.22; 'community.': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'guys': 0.24; 'tracker': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'originally': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; '+0100,': 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'surely': 0.36; 'thank': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'most': 0.60; 'you.': 0.62; 'developed': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'believe': 0.68; 'presented': 0.69; '2015': 0.84; 'bow': 0.84; 'otten': 0.84; 'received:as9105.com': 0.84; 'received:dsl.as9105.com': 0.84; 'received:dynamic.dsl.as9105.com': 0.84; 'dealt': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Bug in timsort!? Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:07:06 +0000 References: <1cf84559-3a63-4799-a879-ae8e513d387e@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80-42-226-58.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424894847 news.xs4all.nl 2844 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49789 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86437 On 25/02/2015 17:22, Mario Figueiredo wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:04:10 +0100, Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> > wrote: >> >> These guys found a bug that is subtler than what most of us have dealt with >> in a widely used piece of code originally developed by one of the smarter >> members of the python "community". >> >> I bow my head to them and say thank you. > > And also presented a solution. > > Thank you for a little of sanity and common sense in this discussion. > TYhe levcel of smugness by some of the posters surely can't be a > representation of the python community. > I don't believe that any technical community with exactly 4,750 open issues on its bug tracker regards itself as smug. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence