Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.064 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'postgres': 0.09; 'postgresql.': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'iirc': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'subject:? - ': 0.16; 'subject:Pypy': 0.16; 'subject:threads': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'pushed': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'server,': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'feb': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "aren't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'world,': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '(on': 0.31; 'running': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'tell': 0.60; 'ago.': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'office,': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; '26,': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'therefore': 0.72; '(sql': 0.84; '2015': 0.84; 'difference.': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'jet': 0.84; 'whopping': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92; 'subject:Are': 0.93; 'wait,': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=yEuKvyQUO9WLKrsPDlrmjHzZW+M+Ggk+aNCNSLAmKeY=; b=ua8r7nECS0SUm7ZRnpu/RfRE/VpJIHwFE98jaT8yiJhagkPyBu/GxyN7jTWn9wJA6r 6ogWwlMLZf2tVuYPdF0cYPWnEsSl8MtZBtmKH/U+yblXx+WCvMng8hOGxW7gyLEr9bZn y3FnQUrAI5ztC65ogUaSFS977lVALpuyXb4hjyltCUJhnz5lbA3PdgcvcwiPTTyr5JIq ZmFailQ/FycVX3FYtSrBjAjuzFnriwWoiVQ1oW+Rt/4rOEwCORvpTnCR8YL6DjtY5Bh8 n/HLrmpHbCn1E/NWrnz9zfAiRf7H7FEL/unAg+MP6336j+azMEvDh1o8HB1qt+69MJKJ Xudw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.62.110 with SMTP id x14mr29010854igr.2.1424884962880; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:22:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <87zj85bcyu.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87lhjpb89i.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87h9udb1eq.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87bnkkb22u.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87lhjnang1.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87bnkjenpp.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <8761aqamss.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87zj82bm15.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87pp8ybl14.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 04:22:42 +1100 Subject: Re: Are threads bad? - was: Future of Pypy? From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424884971 news.xs4all.nl 2869 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58821 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86429 On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > IIRC the underlying JET engine was replaced by SQL Server years ago. Maybe > not the best technlogy in the world, but you'd be hard pushed to do worse > than JET :) The way I understood it, MS Access could connect to a variety of database backends (SQL Server, or anything that uses ODBC, or whatever else), but the only inbuilt engine - and therefore the one that you get by default if you aren't running some other server - was MS Jet. If they're incorporating SQL Server into MS Office, that would make it huge... wait, I'm not sure we could tell the difference. But still, that'd be a whopping great slab of database engine. It'd be like Python incorporating PostgreSQL. I've at times said that the Python stdlib ought to include a Postgres *client* (on par with psycopg2), but not the full *server* :) ChrisA