Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'practice,': 0.07; 'referring': 0.07; 'badly': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'blocked': 0.16; 'both,': 0.16; 'concurrent': 0.16; 'iirc': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:? - ': 0.16; 'subject:Pypy': 0.16; 'subject:threads': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'pushed': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; 'feb': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'mention': 0.26; 'world,': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'resolution': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; '25,': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'ago': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'though,': 0.39; 'delete': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'ian': 0.60; 'ago.': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'name': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'hours': 0.66; 'frequently': 0.68; 'gotten': 0.74; '2015': 0.84; 'jet': 0.84; 'subject:Are': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Are threads bad? - was: Future of Pypy? Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:16:36 +0000 References: <87zj85bcyu.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87lhjpb89i.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87h9udb1eq.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87bnkkb22u.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87lhjnang1.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87bnkjenpp.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <8761aqamss.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <87zj82bm15.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87pp8ybl14.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-216-15.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424884620 news.xs4all.nl 2865 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52275 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86425 On 25/02/2015 17:00, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 25/02/2015 06:02, Ian Kelly wrote: >>> >>> >>> Is the name of that database program "Microsoft Access" perchance? >>> >> >> Are you referring to the GUI, the underlying database engine, both, or what? > > The engine. In theory it supports concurrent access. In practice, it > seems that access is frequently blocked by locks generated by some > other user who was working on it hours ago and is now out of the > office. Not to mention the times when the lock file gets so badly > corrupted that the resolution is to just delete it. > > I haven't used it in some time though, so maybe it's gotten better. > IIRC the underlying JET engine was replaced by SQL Server years ago. Maybe not the best technlogy in the world, but you'd be hard pushed to do worse than JET :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence