Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'url:pipermail': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'correct.': 0.07; 'dynamically': 0.07; 'formatting': 0.09; 'happen,': 0.09; 'hour.': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'tismer': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'thread': 0.14; 'discusses': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'there...': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'posts': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'heading': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'depth': 0.31; 'extract': 0.31; 'fixing': 0.31; 'figure': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'christian': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'extremely': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'negative': 0.60; 'world.': 0.61; 'real': 0.63; 'town': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'yes': 0.68; 'gotten': 0.74; 'demanded': 0.84; 'url:python-dev': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87; 'trouble.': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python wart Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:32:56 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-187-138.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1383298385 news.xs4all.nl 16003 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49412 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:58251 On 01/11/2013 09:17, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> I'm heading into town in maybe an hour. I'll stop here >> http://www.toolbankexpress.com/shop/castle/ so I can get an extremely large >> pair of pliers with which I can extract my tongue from my cheek :) > > I think you may have a bit of trouble. The part where you demanded the > language dynamically figure out what you wanted may have gotten your > tongue rather stuck there... > > The neat thing about this list is that even posts like that can result > in real solutions :) > > ChrisA > Absolutely correct. This thread actually got me thinking[1]. There's a thread on Python ideas about "where did we go wrong with negative stride?". It discusses maybe fixing this for Python 4. I wondered if the idea of deprecating printf style formatting might also come up again. It was discussed in some depth here https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-February/116789.html [1] yes it does happen, yes you may joke about it and yes I can take the jokes, I certainly deserve them :) -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence