Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; '(especially': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; '(its': 0.09; 'modules.': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'library': 0.15; 'folks': 0.15; 'skip:f 30': 0.15; 'delicate': 0.16; 'numpy': 0.16; 'offend': 0.16; 'section?': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:questions': 0.16; 'syntax,': 0.16; 'usage,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'tim': 0.18; 'help.': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; 'thus': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'external': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; 'question': 0.27; 'core': 0.27; '(such': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'all.': 0.28; 'occasional': 0.29; 'subject:what': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'usually': 0.30; 'lists': 0.31; 'etc.)': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'asked': 0.33; 'equal': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'agree': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'modules': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; '(for': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'apply': 0.39; 'your': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'kind': 0.61; 'world': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'here': 0.65; 'manner.': 0.66; 'quality': 0.69; 'subject:this': 0.84; '2013': 0.84; 'moral': 0.84; 'skin': 0.84; 'subject:kinds': 0.84; 'subject:tell': 0.84; 'average': 0.93 X-Received: by 10.49.94.129 with SMTP id dc1mr512560qeb.22.1361136718542; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:31:58 -0800 (PST) Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:31:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.196.64.154; posting-account=h3aEwQoAAACiuqX-oR3gvCVFm8lLHoWj References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 70.196.64.154 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? From: Rick Johnson To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361136726 news.xs4all.nl 6888 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39039 On Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:44:29 AM UTC-6, Tim Golden wrote: > On 17/02/2013 00:19, Claira wrote: > > Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this > > list and what kinds in the tutor section? >=20 > There's no clear-cut distinction. The rule of thumb I usually > apply is that questions about the *language* (its syntax, its > usage, its idioms etc.) and about the core parts of the standard > library -- the modules which come with Python -- can usefully > be asked on the Tutor list by newcomers. Questions which are > about 3rd-party modules (for example, numpy or requests) or > which about more specialised standard library modules (such > as the Windows-specific modules) are probably better asked > here on python-list or on a module-specific forum for > external modules. I don't agree with that assesment at all.=20 I would say you could ask your question on either list and get an equal qua= lity of answer(s). Both lists contain very knowledgable folks who are willi= ng to help.=20 The python tutor list is mainly for folks who might be new to programming O= R folks who have a thinner skin than your average grape and thus need to be= spoken to in an /overly/ kind manner. This list is for real world communic= ations and some replies can be acerbic (especially if you want someone to d= o your homework for you!). So the moral is: =20 * If you want good answers that are not likely to offend=20 your delicate sensibilities, then ask on PyTutor. * If you want good answers to your questions in a strait- forward-and-to-the-point-manner (which may include the occasional "RTFM you idiot!", or "Here, LMGTFY; you lazy bassturd!") then ask here.