Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'core,': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '23,': 0.16; 'buildbot,': 0.16; 'complaining': 0.16; 'core.': 0.16; 'fancy': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'rent': 0.16; 'subject:Pypy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cheap': 0.19; 'feb': 0.22; 'machine': 0.22; '(in': 0.22; 'cloud': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; 'too.': 0.31; 'restricted': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'running': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'basic': 0.35; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; 'even': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'specialized': 0.65; 'fact,': 0.69; '2015': 0.84; 'cpu,': 0.84; 'provider,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=IL8W/id/lQU4a2SEXuvlRF+RmpDf6/5YfkJ+31mvNq0=; b=LP5WOxGoBsmz3+bkdGzyfz2TS4ti/aSK4CHjp7oqoN8NsReJi1C0SBQH1zOYTSkpah f4OaB6JikK3Atu+BRKuVMcQ+X73UJq7/wrW3Xs3IrqzyKHC1vm7IGHih7hA49gsu8hP/ PGjI/XxGeXpBkh40SHr/PV4pqDwlvSRIvqLNtCVPBW9kI07MVVWdBsoVBMDq+VkaYwWj /z1QMcg5RdimSOa+hVzUD3sCKnXRgbRhQJSKFinAtcA83NmvsAbBVXT1isb78PS4MrCK N75p74vHWEkL8SjddYYXvEaQ2Rfk+4lKMMITPksD1KYFVzpdD/3jIySQN8eB+yknGLfG P9Ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.121.203 with SMTP id k11mr3688544icr.59.1424657781190; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 18:16:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87zj85bcyu.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> References: <87fv9xdb22.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> <54ea7ff4$0$12983$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87zj85bcyu.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:16:21 +1100 Subject: Re: Future of Pypy? From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424657784 news.xs4all.nl 2832 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56798 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86177 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: >> if you're running single-thread code on a single-core machine and >> still complaining about the GIL, you have no clue. > > Even the Raspberry Pi has 4 cores now, and fancy smartphones have had > them for years. Single core cpu's are specialized and/or historical. Or virtual. I have a quad-core + hyperthreading CPU, but most of my VMs (in fact, all except the one that runs a Python buildbot, I think!) are restricted to a single core. If you rent a basic cheap machine from a cloud provider, you'll quite possibly be getting a single core, too. ChrisA