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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Chase" <python.list@tim.thechases.com>
Subject: Re: Accessible tools


>
> While my experience has shown most of your items to be true, I'd
> contend that
>
>>• Do not, have access to debugging tools.
>
> is mistaken or at least misinformed.  For Python, I use the "pdb"
> module all the time, and it's command-line driven.  Combined with a
> multi-terminal (whether multiple windows, virtual consoles, or a
> tmux/screen session), I can easily bounce back and forth between a
> "pdb" debugging session and the source code to make edits.  Just to
> check, I fired up the "yasr" terminal screen-reader, launched tmux
> (using my quiet config, since it updates information on the screen
> like the time on a regular basis, making it chatty), and stepped
> through some Python code, checked variables, and walked up/down the
> call-stack.  I know most other languages have similar functionality
> such as gdb for C code.
Will check out PDB a bit more, but, honestly, my windows screenreader that 
use most of the time, jaws, doesn't always cooperate perfectly with command 
line/console interface - can be worked around, but, not all that easily at 
times - but, this page seems to offer enough detail relating to PDB, to 
start off with anyway:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/pdb.html

Jacob Kruger
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