Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; '0.1': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'plug': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language,': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; '1:08': 0.16; 'ah,': 0.16; 'grounds': 0.16; 'hits': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'machine': 0.22; 'load': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'getting': 0.31; 'agreed.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'violation': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'linux': 0.33; 'week.': 0.33; 'mac': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'no,': 0.35; 'one,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'virtual': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'server': 0.38; 'machines': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'ian': 0.60; 'such': 0.63; 'choose': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'pick': 0.64; 'chance': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'frequently': 0.68; 'day': 0.76; '2015': 0.84; 'beats': 0.84; 'capability': 0.84; 'day...': 0.84; 'high-end': 0.84; 'ram,': 0.84; 'besides,': 0.93; 'from.': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 21:23:13 +0100 References: <87h9rvm576.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <871tixlmp6.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <750db03b-e393-43ff-9ccf-5cc050af7324@googlegroups.com> <87zj5jf15q.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <55490FAE.8070501@davea.name> <55492F55.1020105@davea.name> <55496de5$0$12993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5549bde3$0$12911$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-26-50.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1430943813 news.xs4all.nl 2950 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47133 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:90072 On 06/05/2015 17:17, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Steven D'Aprano >> >> Besides, "typical load" is a myth -- there is no such thing. A high-end >> Windows web server getting ten thousand hits a minute, a virtual machine >> starved for RAM, a Mac laptop, a Linux server idling away with a load of 0.1 >> all day... any of those machines could run your code. How can you *possibly* >> say what is typical? The very idea is absurd. > > Agreed. > I must disagree with this, on the grounds that a "typical load" of old cobblers are frequently spouted on this list. Practicality beats purity any day of the week. But no, this '=' is misused, it should have been ':='. Who really cares, if you don't like the language, pick another one, there's thousands of them to choose from. Ah, another chance for me to plug the virtues of CORAL 66 and CORAL 250. Capability violation anybody? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence