Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Tim Golden Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: importing Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 15:59:57 +0000 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <56DDA44B.7040405@vanderhoff.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de hwboLHG3x/QSeFrSVWJOlAts/VVJ8/77vz7bAH24liNg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'attributes': 0.07; 'prefix': 0.07; 'imports': 0.09; 'prefixed': 0.09; 'packages.': 0.15; '"*"': 0.16; 'from:addr:timgolden.me.uk': 0.16; 'from:name:tim golden': 0.16; 'message-id:@timgolden.me.uk': 0.16; "module's": 0.16; 'namespace;': 0.16; "package's": 0.16; 'received:74.55.86': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86.74': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'received:smtp.webfaction.com': 0.16; 'received:webfaction.com': 0.16; 'tjg': 0.16; 'tk()': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'attribute': 0.18; 'typing': 0.18; "aren't": 0.22; 'correctly.': 0.22; 'space.': 0.22; 'tkinter': 0.22; 'errors': 0.23; 'import': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'module': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'van': 0.26; 'errors.': 0.27; 'package.': 0.27; "skip:' 10": 0.28; 'implied': 0.29; 'loads': 0.29; 'somebody': 0.30; 'add': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'modules': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'thought': 0.37; 'names': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'space': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'from:addr:mail': 0.70; 'definitive': 0.84; 'not:': 0.93 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 In-Reply-To: <56DDA44B.7040405@vanderhoff.org> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104217 On 07/03/2016 15:54, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I thought I understood this, but apparently not: > Under py3: > > 1. "import tkinter" imports the whole module into the name space. Any > access to names therein must be prefixed with the module name. > ie top = tkinter.Tk() > But tkinter.messagebox.showwarning() errors with "module has no > attribute 'messagebox'" > > 2. "from tkinter import *" loads the name space from the module into the > program name space. No need to prefix the module name onto the attribute > name. Pollutes the name space, but makes typing easier. > ie top = Tk() > But messagebox.showwarning() still errors. > > 3. in either of the above cases, if I add "from tkinter import > messagebox, the attribute resolves correctly. > > I imagined that the "*" form implied "load the lot". Evidently, my > understanding is lacking. Will somebody please put me straight, or give > me a reference to some definitive documentation? > What you're seeing is that "messagebox" is a module inside the "tkinter" package. And modules are not automatically made available under their parent packages. That is: a module's attributes are part of its namespace; but a package's modules aren't part of its. TJG