Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.041 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'scripts': 0.03; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'output': 0.05; 'url:pipermail': 0.05; 'developer': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'thread': 0.14; 'blocks': 0.16; 'collapse': 0.16; 'formatting,': 0.16; 'issue?': 0.16; 'navigating': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'obviously': 0.18; 'finished': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'feb': 0.22; 'comfortable': 0.22; 'tests': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'days,': 0.24; 'driven': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'developers': 0.25; 'developing': 0.27; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'direction': 0.30; 'list:': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'posting': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'accessible': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'feedback': 0.38; 'message- id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'audio': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'today.': 0.61; 'entire': 0.61; 'took': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'save': 0.62; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'hearing': 0.63; 'information': 0.63; 'name': 0.63; 'high': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'provide': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'dear': 0.65; 'contact': 0.67; 'jonas': 0.84; 'researching': 0.84; 'speech': 0.84; 'unique.': 0.84; 'beneficial': 0.91; 'don\xe2\x80\x99t': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=R3WG2AFNBOTOwKdBtduhKCS5aDYKrenKnPDucwIo7lk=; b=MLHs7XQZb5gz0WnFtIEDEK5Hk14GaEFGalkW5s34r+/J+BxgMj9vWps+3WZI0pjbxU qsNANwYlfhXOLrC9vTKmm1wcpE8/sYwNf7limtQkhA3EzdMRSkWqWqt7qZu2FCacE4Ev EJQ7h+Bk6RHl1Eoq0pW0z+RThANgDi+42iNr0kDb5aVwAzE3aeoSt8Ykm98bArWTGeG3 ZOjVNazh0Hzdb52QVwrZIViVvvOAMrakdp2dQqWb6rj7VIopI3XazyMeB73HtIagLlGM e8EE5GY223RzvnV7UK7SFKkQSsXiBj0fQqzO3k1Cq/5qtTZm2tPdYCezL6aGlXVxFDML /6sQ== X-Received: by 10.68.232.200 with SMTP id tq8mr8394623pbc.133.1424360028640; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:33:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: Accessible tools From: Bryan Duarte In-Reply-To: <54E5B61A.903@wielicki.name> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:33:45 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <436DFEA2-6DE7-488C-A6E7-48A67417CDF6@gmail.com> <54E5B61A.903@wielicki.name> To: Jonas Wielicki X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:39:58 +0100 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424360399 news.xs4all.nl 2943 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49517 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:85908 Thank you jwi, and Jacob, I took a look at that posting and it seems pretty unique. I am not much = interested in the speech driven development, but I am very interested in = developing an accessible IDE. A professor and I have been throwing = around the idea of developing a completely text based IDE. There are a = lot of reasons this could be beneficial to a blind developer and maybe = even some sighted developers who are comfortable in the terminal. The = idea would be really just to provide a way of easily navigating blocks = of code using some kind of tabular formatting, and being able to = collapse blocks of code and hearing from a high level information about = the code within. All tools and features would obviously be spoken or = output in some kind of audio manor.=20 Jacob, I know your name and I do know Jamal's name as well. I think I = recall your names from either back in the "Mobile Speak" days, or maybe = from the jaws mailing list. Either way thank you for the feedback and I = will take a look at edSharp today. The Python interpreter is great for = small tests or scripts but for lengthy programs there is no easy way to = save your code other than capturing the entire history with extra code = and all. How do you typically handle that issue? Thank you both.=20 Oh and before I forget does anyone know how to contact Eric who was = developing that accessible speech driven IDE? Thanks > On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:08 AM, Jonas Wielicki = wrote: >=20 > Dear Bryan, >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t have a finished solution for you, but I would like to = link you > to a previous thread on this list: > = >=20 > The poster seems to be researching into the direction of developing a > speech-friendly IDE. You may want to follow his work. >=20 > regards, > jwi >=20 >=20 > --=20 > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list