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See http://www.dkim.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=blindza.co.za; s=dkim-shared; x=1424945664; h=Comment: DomainKey-Signature:Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Cc: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=3DqeMTvy6ozOHtiI6CScpRwoNaABjyoGf3 P3UK7UdnI=; b=bq6zzkbykJ5BmrW3wH/Hmbl5Sj8LIsTHM8kCnSCVJ1YLZU5tsV pIKWznF6lTSEb6yEc39Q8uvHoq75zFnXiCMs5Y8RfMO8pJdvklSJuA6BLDsyUIKY O29kRIAs4/jmqunFlTWOTa1mXENXdcON3ksO8mCmKrbmNf63IxXYDWU+U= Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dkim-shared; d=blindza.co.za; h=Received:Received:X-Originating-IP:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=E5sEspd7Ch6L6TMIlDgx+jdYYbn1vDQJeIFTQcG+ZCI2kI8TRt48tZAKORBQ3i JtcZ0B4+IMcbpbvnzBn55td6CHT/nyoeBxUHqKYyrSa2LL9OemL5JXE/2begrhUN ms5N9Q/aOwNZQm39GoLDrmVNADXQcFWHXO8x3MptGmnM0=; X-Originating-IP: 105.236.231.123 From: "Jacob Kruger" To: "Bryan Duarte" References: <436DFEA2-6DE7-488C-A6E7-48A67417CDF6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <436DFEA2-6DE7-488C-A6E7-48A67417CDF6@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Accessible tools Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:07:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 55 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424340868 news.xs4all.nl 2890 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33082 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 6520 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1443387915 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:85891 Brian, I am also a fully bind python/PHP developer, and all I really bother with, aside from python interpreter itself is the text editor called edSharp: http://www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe That's been developed by another blind guy who's name you might have heard in other circles, Jamal Mazrui, and it's just a programmers text editor that has a bit of extra functionality built in for use along with screen readers like jaws and NVDA, etc. And, there are also some other general blind programmer mailing lists - I am on both program-l@freelists.org as well as a couple of other topic specific ones, but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Duarte" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:43 PM Subject: Accessible tools > Hello all, > > I have been posting to another group which directed me to this group. I am > a blind software engineering student at Arizona State University. I am > currently doing research and have decided to use Python as my developing > language. I am in search of an accessible IDE or other tool set which will > allow me to use the features with a screen reader. I have tried a number > of tools but so far have been unsuccessful in finding one that allows me > to use the tools and features of the IDE with my screen reader. > > I understand that I do not need an IDE to use Python, I am looking for an > IDE to allow me to explore the classes and methods easily and quickly. I > have tried the following tools. > • pyCharm > • iPy > • iPy Notebook > • Idle > • and Eclipse > > So far only Eclipse was accessible but I did still incounter some > difficulties like the IDE freezing up when tool tips would pop up. Finally > I am using a Mac mostly but can use Windows, or Linux if need be. Thank > you and I appreciate any and all suggestions. > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >