Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'completeness': 0.07; 'gpl': 0.07; 'pypi': 0.07; 'complaining': 0.09; 'replication': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'bitbucket.': 0.16; 'disclaimers': 0.16; 'disclaimers,': 0.16; 'low.': 0.16; 'nowadays': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'pypi?': 0.16; 'sad': 0.16; 'securities,': 0.16; 'subject:dead': 0.16; 'url:disclosures': 0.16; 'url:jpmorgan': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'file.': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'somebody': 0.23; 'project,': 0.24; 'so.': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'leave': 0.26; 'accuracy': 0.27; 'charged': 0.27; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'projects.': 0.30; 'thursday,': 0.30; 'up.': 0.31; 'more,': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'version': 0.34; "can't": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'project': 0.34; 'from:addr:googlemail.com': 0.35; 'open': 0.35; 'software,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'subject:': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'announce': 0.36; 'email addr:python.org': 0.36; 'october': 0.37; 'resources': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'sent:': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'release': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'think': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'facebook': 0.61; 'latest': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'email name:python-list': 0.62; 'information,': 0.63; 'url:email': 0.63; 'therefore': 0.65; 'legal': 0.65; 'else.': 0.65; 'removal': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'subject': 0.66; 'dear': 0.66; 'purchase': 0.67; 'lack': 0.71; 'industry': 0.72; 'money': 0.74; 'sale': 0.76; 'participants': 0.78; 'abandon': 0.84; 'etienne': 0.84 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:43:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=123.192.32.215; posting-account=5JdMBQoAAABHnS4mjpqEzxnmWtgiiVNw References: <506e282e$0$1726$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 123.192.32.215 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: notmm is dead! From: 88888 Dihedral To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 94 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1349487837 news.xs4all.nl 6926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58411 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30859 Prasad, Ramit=E6=96=BC 2012=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5=E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F= =E5=85=ADUTC+8=E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=884=E6=99=8206=E5=88=8631=E7=A7=92=E5=AF=AB= =E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > Steven D'Aprano wrote: >=20 > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:22 PM >=20 > > To: python-list@python.org >=20 > > Subject: Re: notmm is dead! >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:10:46 -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote: >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > > Dear list, >=20 > > > >=20 > > > Due to lack of energy and resources i'm really sad to announce the >=20 > > > removal of notmm from pypi and bitbucket. >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > Well that's just rude. Even if you don't intend to maintain the softwar= e >=20 > > any more, why are you removing it from pypi? Since you say you are a fa= n >=20 > > of Open Source software, just flag it as unmaintained and leave it for >=20 > > somebody else to pick up. >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > If you are going to abandon the project, release it on PyPI with a dual >=20 > > MIT and GPL licence, and let it be taken over by somebody else. >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > If you were looking for sympathy here, starting off by removing your >=20 > > project from free hosting, then complaining that you can't pay for the >=20 > > non-free hosting, was NOT the right way to do so. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I might be misunderstanding, but I think Etienne wants money in=20 >=20 > exchange for letting someone else take over.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > By the way, the latest version of notmm (0.4.4) has an empty licence >=20 > > file. No licence means that everyone using it is unlicenced and therefo= re >=20 > > infringing your copyright. >=20 > >=20 >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and >=20 > conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of >=20 > securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, >=20 > confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, >=20 > available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. I think it is OK to have some string attatched in those open source project= s. Nowadays the software industry is just like the perfume and prtinting=20 and the audio-video entaertainment industry. The replication cost is so low. Don't forget the lawsuites in Facebook=20 about the participants charged the founder in the courts.