Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!bcyclone02.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone02.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.025 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'collections': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'exists': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'virtual': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'irrelevant': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: What the Pythons docs means by "container" ? Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:04:12 -0500 References: <71e8463f-2a60-4fb0-a5b7-0ca7cd3efece@googlegroups.com> <472c49ae-c2ce-4eda-b922-f16613722e31@googlegroups.com> <1d87da9c-ef64-4bd2-9179-e2aad908a9d0@googlegroups.com> <54E4EB78.80402@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-98-114-97-173.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: <54E4EB78.80402@stoneleaf.us> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1424289867 news.xs4all.nl 2864 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45197 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 2996 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2432646710 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:85816 On 2/18/2015 2:43 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > Whether a "contained" object exists before it is accessed is irrelevant, is an implementation detail, and is a level of > optimization. Is in not irrelevant in that virtual collections can be infinite. -- Terry Jan Reedy