Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'url:pypi': 0.03; 'cpython': 0.05; 'insert': 0.05; 'url:bitbucket': 0.05; 'pypy': 0.07; 'referring': 0.07; 'skip:` 10': 0.07; 'implemented.': 0.09; 'indeed,': 0.09; 'name?': 0.09; 'namespace': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'url:pypy': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '*a*': 0.16; ':-(': 0.16; '__builtin__': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'sad': 0.16; 'shorten': 0.16; 'tracing': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'url:py': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'else,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'developers': 0.25; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'robert': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'too.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'subject:what': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'implemented': 0.33; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'tool': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'i.e.': 0.36; 'interface,': 0.36; 'library.': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'implement': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'supporting': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'helps': 0.61; 'profile': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'believe': 0.68; 'production': 0.68; 'detail.': 0.68; 'desperate': 0.84; 'eco': 0.84; 'subject:skip:l 10': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'profile.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: line_profiler: what am I doing wrong? Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:42:27 +0000 References: <54daa1d6$0$12979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54daada4$0$12998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.1.240.226 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: <54daada4$0$12998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1423669372 news.xs4all.nl 2853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37049 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:85535 On 2015-02-11 01:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > > >> To quote from https://pypi.python.org/pypi/line_profiler/ >> >> $ kernprof -l script_to_profile.py >> kernprof will create an instance of LineProfiler and insert it into the >> __builtins__ namespace with the name profile. > > Ewww!!!! What a Ruby-esque interface, that makes me sad :-( This is not a production library. It's a development tool designed to help developers shorten the cycle time for investigating these kinds of issues. Well, *a* developer; i.e. me. If it helps anyone else, yahtzee! > And what if you > have your own profile global name? Then you can pull it out from __builtin__ with a different name and use that other name. > And *wrong* too. `__builtins__` is a private CPython implementation detail. > The way to monkey-patch the built-ins in Python 2 is to inject the object > into `__builtin__` (no s), or `builtins` in Python 3. And indeed that is how it is implemented. Referring to that namespace as the "`__builtins__` namespace" isn't *wrong*. It may mislead you into thinking I've implemented it one particular way, if you are desperate to find a nit to pick. > Seeing as > line_profiler is written in C, perhaps the author (Robert Kern) doesn't > care about supporting Jython or IronPython, but there may be Python > implementations (PyPy perhaps?) which can run C code but don't have > __builtins__. Indeed, I do not care about any of them. PyPy does not implement CPython's tracing API: https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/src/2b2163d65ee437646194a1ceb2a3153db24c5f7e/pypy/module/cpyext/stubs.py?at=default#cl-1286 -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco