Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.236 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.53; '*S*': 0.01; 'suddenly': 0.07; 'windows': 0.15; 'layout,': 0.16; 'subject:dictionaries': 0.16; 'surprising': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'typing': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'feb': 0.22; 'keyboard': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'points': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '(which': 0.31; 'created': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'everyone.': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'problems.': 0.60; 'happen': 0.63; 'myself': 0.63; 'places': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'brain': 0.68; 'frequently': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'fact,': 0.69; '2015': 0.84; 'alternative.': 0.84; 'layout.': 0.84; 'localized': 0.84; 'pain': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=9RBzXK8BWiXvHFiDXrovo0WgISyFMiK6azyVuu3rHPU=; b=ZiidgQez2JwkgAkM9edzIbnD5oxX5gOsX1hXAIL3ArWtMu4OSYEUDSSvoqGINK/MEF y9tAWVZEVfXYr+hzZfqbsc0VV9uyRXHCgMqb1O/0dL8775nKegBbmb58aQC63+v6osqf dqAOIdAotXmKDi9f/c0xhwWAS/uMhbckPGb75iWUUKCQK/tM3csDsHYYtBmlW/9xccVy NodYHhlSUkNDN1/M/8L7M+Q0QM6tzHi3fkRFs4vNtZ2Cw4Hq1GxZ2jKW+BDiY2MQ9O3X KutHlZTDqXjNLXNVhyOJbxc6wzh/252cOylC8+3JoHu0yxDXeVdddLH29cDt9u/iAB6t GArw== X-Received: by 10.68.221.165 with SMTP id qf5mr170681pbc.101.1423170738476; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:12:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <54d29f63$0$12986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54d302fc$0$11096$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 14:11:38 -0700 Subject: Re: pymongo and attribute dictionaries To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:18:32 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1423210712 news.xs4all.nl 2968 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36993 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:85281 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Anssi Saari wrote: > What I find surprising is that so many people cling so hard to their > localized keyboard layouts. I think none of those were created by > engineers and should be avoided by technical people. Or, in fact, > everyone. Even Microsoft seems to understand this and so Windows > installs the US English layout by default as an alternative. Speaking as a user of both Dvorak and Qwerty, switching between layouts frequently can be confusing. In particular the pain points are the places where the two layouts are similar. I haven't done this so much recently, but in the past I have often been typing away in one layout, then come to an A or an M (which happen to be in the same position in both layouts) at which point my brain would inadvertently "switch" and I would suddenly find myself typing in the wrong layout. I would expect that a localized layout with more similarity than what there is between Dvorak and Qwerty would cause even more of these types of problems.