Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; '"standard': 0.16; '12:59': 0.16; 'dictionary.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'subject:which': 0.16; 'well-known': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'acquired': 0.19; 'options.': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'feb': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'rules': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'subject:like': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'too.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; "i'd": 0.34; 'definition': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:data': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'love': 0.65; 'talking': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'answer.': 0.68; 'ending': 0.78; '2015': 0.84; 'dialect': 0.84; 'technically': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: [OT] fortran lib which provide python like data type Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:08:41 +0000 References: <4822a519-5814-433b-88ad-9bea8a2f83e3@googlegroups.com> <3c31aec4-0c0a-4eb9-aff4-e7b7aa76da21@googlegroups.com> <3d3ef587-a62d-4024-964c-0ac8be023ca3@googlegroups.com> <0b8db0f6-75c5-4a8f-a9a5-51fa936b306e@googlegroups.com> <87zj8zf8bv.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87bnlekfrg.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <561ab49b-890e-4c95-9cf2-6cbbac5b3c93@googlegroups.com> <87a90yf5dd.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <54ce5929$0$12992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87twz5e9yl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <54ceda0b$0$12977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87zj8witjx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-222-48.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: <87zj8witjx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1422893405 news.xs4all.nl 2846 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56679 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:85089 On 02/02/2015 08:52, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> And there are underspecified rules too. What is the plural of octopus? No >>> fair looking it up in the dictionary. >> >> Standard and well-known piece of trivia, and there are several >> options. "Octopodes" is one of the most rigorously formal, but >> "octopuses" is perfectly acceptable. "Octopi" is technically >> incorrect, as the -us ending does not derive from the Latin. > > Your brain's grammar engine will give you the correct answer. It may not > match your English teacher's answer, but the language we are talking > about is not standard English but the dialect you have acquired in > childhood. > > > Marko > I'd love to see a formal definition for "standard English". -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence