Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'example:': 0.03; 'essentially': 0.04; 'attribute': 0.07; 'modify': 0.07; 'attributes': 0.09; 'compact': 0.09; 'iterate': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'toss': 0.09; 'mostly': 0.14; '"if"': 0.16; '"in': 0.16; 'math,': 0.16; 'nick': 0.16; 'object()': 0.16; 'partly': 0.16; 'readability': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'sense,': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'subclass': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'fine': 0.24; 'options': 0.25; 'this:': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'statement': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; '(which': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; '"",': 0.31; 'flags': 0.31; 'work:': 0.31; 'yesterday': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'problem.': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'objects': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'are,': 0.36; 'false': 0.36; 'object,': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'access,': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; 'forward': 0.65; '(that': 0.65; 'default': 0.69; 'subject:have': 0.80; "'object'": 0.84; 'bare': 0.84; 'liking': 0.84; 'subject:think': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: mutable ints: I think I have painted myself into a corner Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 09:01:49 +0200 Organization: None References: <20130519002629.GA14025@cskk.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5084bc5c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.7.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 62 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1368946921 news.xs4all.nl 15871 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50270 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45554 Cameron Simpson wrote: > TL;DR: I think I want to modify an int value "in place". > > Yesterday I was thinking about various "flag set" objects I have > floating around which are essentially bare "object"s whose attributes > I access, for example: > > flags = object() > flags.this = True > flags.that = False > > and then elsewhere: > > if flags.that: > do that ... > > Nice and readable, but I thought to myself: so bulky! Plus, it doesn't work: >>> object().this = True Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in AttributeError: 'object' object has no attribute 'this' > The use case for flags is essentially boolean/binary, and so a int > accessed as a bitmask should be smaller. > > So I pulled out my BitMask int subclass (which mostly transcribes > the int as "A|B|C" for readability purposes, partly to dillute Nick > Coglan's liking for bulky strings over compact ints on readability > grounds:-), and gave the subclass attribute access. > > This works just fine for querying the flags object, with code exactly > like the "if" statement above. > > But setting up a flags object? What I _want_ to write is code like this: > > Flags = BitMask('this', 'that') > > # set default state > flags = Flags() > flags.this = False > flags.that = True > ... iterate over some options ...: flags.this = True > > and there's my problem. This would modify the int in place. There's > no way to do that. For the base type (int) this makes perfect sense, > as they're immutable. > > Before I toss this approach and retreat to my former "object" > technique, does anyone see a way forward to modify an int subclass > instance in place? (That doesn't break math, preferably; I don't > do arithmetic with these things but they are, after all, ints...) No, but you could make flags = Flags(this=False, that=True) work.