Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'fee.': 0.07; 'gpl': 0.07; 'pypi': 0.07; 'complaining': 0.09; 'received:mail- qc0-f174.google.com': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'bitbucket.': 0.16; 'did,': 0.16; 'dime': 0.16; 'err': 0.16; 'hackers': 0.16; 'isc': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'pypi?': 0.16; 'sad': 0.16; 'subject:dead': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'file.': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'branch': 0.23; 'somebody': 0.23; 'project,': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'so.': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'leave': 0.26; 'rest': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'secondly': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'us!': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'minimal': 0.30; 'up.': 0.31; 'point': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.32; 'more,': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'club': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'version': 0.34; "can't": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'project': 0.34; 'open': 0.35; 'software,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'announce': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'resources': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'received:209.85.216': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'green': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'release': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'further': 0.61; 'latest': 0.61; 'kind': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.62; 'received:96': 0.62; 'here': 0.65; 'therefore': 0.65; 'else.': 0.65; 'removal': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'dear': 0.66; 'contact': 0.68; 'lack': 0.71; 'abandon': 0.84; 'etienne': 0.84; 'hands': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l0nrKI4sK44zpHS6Ry/JmK2VJLzDxjqBEMlsdkxvPJA=; b=T6whiBf3aTfXy7/htJpcafD2Ogvg29BHueHgSq/1r+4RoHyGltZJkHdqquiRRX0fPm /5pn6ZG/1UitqjroxGIcP03xNtFQv7EqEJwW2gVOUB0FRX/ho841hbxKsf7gxYwLX47l 24/YxMgC7YJRvSqYEq0N0+5eYJheU4K0vpOZjq2acmNtO19Lk9V3KfcePylt2uNG1//5 uy3e3kmrLzGeXi72LrEiJd3eW35SkTFqKrMJ6sToRdHVQRNy0dAVT6r+UY2fF6UW8k5e jNnTf2M5F71ENSYhpYzAuEn2+gmcRX1O8ae1IY5fDUwhHTSmyKaTWcoKEBpqAemd8qP8 reGQ== Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:38:23 -0400 From: Etienne Robillard To: Steven D'Aprano Subject: Re: notmm is dead! In-Reply-To: <506e282e$0$1726$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> References: <506e282e$0$1726$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 55 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1349397483 news.xs4all.nl 6905 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60737 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30760 Err not exactly.. :) Firstly notmm is still ISC licensed and available from here http://gthc.org/notmm/dist/. Secondly i don't want to leave it to the hands of people without I can get a single dime for the work did, however some peoples don't seem to get this point yet.. My apologies if you feel this removal was rude anyways. Feel free to contact me again if you need further clarification or would like to take over maintainership of a branch for a minimal fee. Kind regards, Etienne On 05 Oct 2012 00:22:06 GMT Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:10:46 -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > Due to lack of energy and resources i'm really sad to announce the > > removal of notmm from pypi and bitbucket. > > Well that's just rude. Even if you don't intend to maintain the software > any more, why are you removing it from pypi? Since you say you are a fan > of Open Source software, just flag it as unmaintained and leave it for > somebody else to pick up. > > If you are going to abandon the project, release it on PyPI with a dual > MIT and GPL licence, and let it be taken over by somebody else. > > If you were looking for sympathy here, starting off by removing your > project from free hosting, then complaining that you can't pay for the > non-free hosting, was NOT the right way to do so. > > By the way, the latest version of notmm (0.4.4) has an empty licence > file. No licence means that everyone using it is unlicenced and therefore > infringing your copyright. > > > > -- > Steven > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Etienne Robillard Green Tea Hackers Club Fine Software Carpentry For The Rest Of Us! http://gthc.org/ erob@gthcfoundation.org