Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'that?': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'purpose.': 0.07; 'answering': 0.09; 'friday,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'mostly': 0.14; '*you*': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'programming': 0.22; 'comfortable': 0.22; 'python?': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; '(for': 0.26; 'values': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'robert': 0.30; 'claiming': 0.31; 'question:': 0.31; 'says': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'c++': 0.36; 'largely': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'minimum': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'ago.': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'world': 0.66; 'believe': 0.68; '20,': 0.68; 'hour': 0.70; 'advertising': 0.74; 'eco': 0.84; 'hardly': 0.84; 'subject:before': 0.84; 'subject:know': 0.84; 'subject:saying': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:39:13 +0100 References: <31df03f7-2b81-483a-9242-b83ba4559b1a@googlegroups.com> <97f90924-7690-442c-a1b3-4d7409e30d44@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.1.240.226 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 In-Reply-To: <97f90924-7690-442c-a1b3-4d7409e30d44@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1379684366 news.xs4all.nl 15885 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59888 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54474 On 2013-09-20 12:43, rusi wrote: > On Friday, September 20, 2013 3:28:00 PM UTC+5:30, Aseem Bansal wrote: >> I started Python 4 months ago. Largely self-study with use of Python documentation, stackoverflow and google. I was thinking what is the minimum that I must know before I can say that I know Python? >> >> I come from a C background which is comparatively smaller. But as Python is comparatively much larger what minimum should I know? >> >> Just a general question not for a specific purpose. > > Stroustrup says he is still learning C++ and I know kids who have no qualms saying they know programming language L (for various values of L) after hardly an hour or two of mostly advertising and pep-talk exposure. > So without knowing what you mean my 'knowing' I am not going to try answering q-1 I think that's his actual question: "What do *you* mean by 'I know Python'?" At what point in your Python career did you feel comfortable claiming that? -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco