Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!selfless.tophat.at!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; '(although': 0.05; 'pm,': 0.10; '>>>': 0.12; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'subject:python': 0.14; 'angelico': 0.16; 'subject:distribution': 0.16; 'sure,': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.17; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'thu,': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.22; 'code.': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.23; 'subject:code': 0.23; 'fri,': 0.23; 'code': 0.24; 'expect': 0.25; 'statement': 0.26; 'script': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'least': 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.30; 'deploy,': 0.30; 'understands': 0.30; 'break': 0.33; 'actually': 0.33; 'install': 0.34; 'chris': 0.34; 'deploy': 0.35; 'speaking': 0.36; 'received:google.com': 0.37; '20,': 0.37; 'think': 0.38; 'received:74.125': 0.38; 'back.': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'really': 0.40; 'more': 0.60; 'piece': 0.63; 'full': 0.63; 'yourself': 0.68; 'safe': 0.69; '10:56': 0.84; 'bald': 0.91; 'ultimate': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Xd14PIIcIkhcrU5JvtqD9MjShEJd3nY9PiEiS7PLsog=; b=xyh50hchzqHWCSpk4L7/RokXgmAApRbGtcuFJybsrSDTkH0WOWgtNbo3qYMSPDTdII 3ZsMla30Jt7AcINR8LGEzoB8P0YTkavwZNXemkIilK2XKKaR4nINHWhzshKMZXVN3h6+ WXWFTBCOcGumgFue+r7AtI+diFAGvEzZkIPtc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bSM9p1/DKy3IYSevpnPIPv5nkyr9wFCFfWLjuSKXLTIdQ1tLJtj4WLbBYHgu0NHYeb zacbpH9L9YijOWeAz6zum/B8D6Xve80uMOZlDP4F5kata9+bRLoaT6di6V0iiPdlJglG 1DrNdhCX3BitZS1H01EfpgEbTT7Jgg3HcW+i4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DD08620.4030507@tysdomain.com> <5h9ca8-ekq.ln1@svn.schaathun.net> <1skda8-3as.ln1@svn.schaathun.net> <4vlea8-55t.ln1@svn.schaathun.net> <0q3ga8-s2v.ln1@svn.schaathun.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:30:52 -0700 Subject: Re: obviscating python code for distribution From: geremy condra To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1305858655 news.xs4all.nl 49176 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:36683 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:5803 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, geremy condra wrote: >>> Speaking of reasonable assumptions, one necessary assumption which is >>> particularly dodgy is that whoever deploys and configures it >>> understands all the assumptions and do not break them through ignorance. >> >> Yup. Nothing is safe from idiots. I actually think I need to take this statement back. The more I think about it, the less convinced I am that it's correct- I can at least conceive of violable systems which cannot be misconfigured. So, sorry about that. > Which means that the assumption really is that you are evaluating a > system, not a bald piece of code. I don't consider that an assumption. > When you're writing code that you will yourself deploy, you take full > responsibility; when you let other people deploy it, they have to take > ultimate responsibility (although they will legitimately expect you to > provide an install script and/or instructions). Sure, although I would personally still call it an assumption. Geremy Condra