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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:46:48 +0100
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Ghodmode <ghodmode@ghodmode.com> wrote:
> Make an effort to curb the spam even if it means killing the newsgroup
> availability. =A0Choose mailman or Google Groups, or another single
> solution. =A0Make it members only, but allow anyone to register with an
> automated confirmation email and a CAPTCHA. =A0Appoint a list admin who
> has a few minutes each day to scan subjects of emails for spammers and
> remove them from the members list.
>

Unfortunately spammers can create email addresses very quickly, and
CAPTCHAs are inherently weak (even the best of them are easily cracked
by the Chinese human "botnets"). However, I wouldn't be against a
system of spam filtering with three levels: Not Spam, gets straight
onto the list; Definite Spam, gets deleted; and Dubious, which gets
dropped into a mod's basket.

ChrisA