Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'diversity': 0.05; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'subject:method': 0.09; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'reedy': 0.16; 'return.': 0.16; 'subject:sort': 0.16; 'interesting.': 0.19; 'discussion': 0.20; 'language': 0.20; 'jan': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'archives': 0.22; 'tools,': 0.22; '(and': 0.22; 'function': 0.27; 'toward': 0.29; 'least': 0.30; 'pragmatic': 0.31; 'does': 0.31; 'language.': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'community': 0.33; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'too': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'how': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'explanations': 0.68; 'intense': 0.84; 'subject:removal': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Guido rethinking removal of cmp from sort method Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:38:23 -0400 References: <4d7cbfcb$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4d94326c$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8kylp.4903$yp3.4046@newsfe09.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1301895518 news.xs4all.nl 81475 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:48024 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:2548 On 4/3/2011 1:26 AM, harrismh777 wrote: > Very interesting. Your explanations (and other excellent contributions > here) have shown an intense variation of diversity of viewpoint within > at least the comp.lang. community with regard to the Python language. If you really want to see variation of opinion, check the archives for discussion of how Python does function call and return. I take a pragmatic viewpoint toward viewpoints: they are tools, so pick ones that work for the particular purpose. My purpose is too make the language easier to learn, especially for those who have not had college CS/programming courses. -- Terry Jan Reedy