Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'position,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'funny,': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; '24,': 0.16; 'distinct': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'unfair': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'community,': 0.19; 'options.': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'languages': 0.32; 'community': 0.33; 'anybody': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'back': 0.62; 'advanced': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'subject:! ': 0.74; '2.8': 0.84; '2015': 0.84; 'fail.': 0.84; 'killed': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python is DOOMED! Again! Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 14:40:20 +0000 References: <54c07d04$0$13012$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1939680766443642112.878725sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <54c1c5c1$0$13001$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-222-48.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1422110443 news.xs4all.nl 2977 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44072 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 4327 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2204334048 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:84470 On 24/01/2015 01:15, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: >> But without a thriving community, Python has no value to me. >> >> If we add type hinting, then that community will go away, because other >> languages are better options. >> >> Who will win? Julia? Ruby? They are all waiting in line for Python to fail. >> Then Python will be like Smalltalk. > > The Python community that was already killed by Python 3.0? Funny, it > seems to be a bit more resilient than the naysayers would have us > believe. > > ChrisA > That's unfair as there was a distinct fall back position, what with Python 2.8 and RickedPython(3). Is anybody aware of just how far advanced these projects are? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence