Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'extent': 0.07; 'sized': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; '23,': 0.16; '5:00': 0.16; 'pep8': 0.16; 'real.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'shops,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'coding': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'certain': 0.27; 'required.': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'on,': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'fri,': 0.33; 'standards': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'managers': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'today': 0.64; 'become': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'bottom': 0.67; 'benefit': 0.68; 'charge.': 0.68; 'subject:! ': 0.74; 'received:12': 0.81; '2015': 0.84; 'choices.': 0.84; 'updated,': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Emile van Sebille Subject: Re: Python is DOOMED! Again! Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:14:54 -0800 References: <54c07d04$0$13012$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1939680766443642112.878725sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: www.westernstatesglass.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421975705 news.xs4all.nl 2921 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42591 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:84296 On 1/22/2015 5:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Sturla Molden wrote: >> Type hinting will be mandatory because of bad managers. But then someone is >> going to ask what benefit Python has to offer: > > Type hinting will never be mandatory, I'm sure it will be in some places, if only to the extent that PEP8 compliance is enforced. > because bad managers are not in charge. But coding standards may be, and in certain sized shops, should be. So as tools come of age, standards will be updated, and hinting will be added and hence become required. > You can't blame the language because you're *choosing* to >sigh< It's good to have choices. Bottom line is that the decisions being made today about type hinting will live on, so it's good to consider eventualities that are real. Emile