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From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com>
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Subject: Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:34:25 -0400
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On Tuesday 15 March 2016 22:46:44 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 15 March 2016 19:55:52 Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> >>
> >> > And as for second-level domains, consider for example =E2=80=9Ct.c=
=E2=80=9D
> >> > instead of =E2=80=9Ctwitter.com=E2=80=9D as part of the short URI.
> >>
> >> That'll work only for the ones that you code in specifically, and
> >> that's only shortening your URL by 8 characters. A typical URL
> >> needing shortening is over 80 characters - maybe several hundred.
> >> You need to cut that down to a manageable length. That
> >> fundamentally cannot be reversed without readding information.
> >
> > And I submit that putting someone in charge of the drives
> > organization, and the database on that drive that the url has to dig
> > thru, can make a huge difference in the length of the resultant url.
>
> Maybe it=E2=80=99s just the late/early hour, but you=E2=80=99ve just lost=
 me.
> Please elaborate.
>
Elaborate? Unless the database is expected to handle the whole human=20
race, what 9 billion of us?, a subdir name longer than 8 chars is wasted=20
space.  And we regularly see them much longer that that, with a friggin=20
regex in the middle, using 6 to 15 subdirs if what I read is broken=20
down. Thats assinine IMO, and if because they cannot do it right for a=20
platform other than windows, it doesn't work for me, then I don't care=20
if it links to the g-code (RS-274-D) that would make my machines carve=20
me a key to Fort Knox.  If these ID10T's want me to see whatever the=20
heck it is they're are peddling to make me last all night, they WILL fix=20
it.  Heck, at 81, and diabetic for almost 30 years, nothing they can=20
sell me will fix it anyway. :(
> >> >>> And with the exception of Twitter-ish sites that place a limit
> >> >>> on message length, there really is *no need* for shorter URIs
> >> >>> nowadays.  (HTTP) clients and servers are capable of processing
> >> >>> really long ones [1]; electronic communications media and
> >> >>> related software, too [2].  And data storage space as well as
> >> >>> data transmission has become exceptionally inexpensive.  A few
> >> >>> less bytes there do not count.
> >
> > They may not count for that much in terms of what the user pays for
> > bandwidth, but see below.  And some users are probably still paying
> > for their internet access by the minute in some locales.
>
> So they should loathe more the overhead measured in *kibibytes* and
> delay measured in *seconds* caused by additional HTTP requests due to
> redirection from =E2=80=9Cshort URLs=E2=80=9D than the few more *bytes* i=
n longer,
> original URLs, yes?
>
> --
> PointedEars
>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
=2D-=20
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