Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: dieter Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Fear and suspicion of lambdas, was Re: Meta decorator with parameters, defined in explicit functions Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 08:57:09 +0200 Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <85mvm5vrbw.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <0690f476-95ad-4dec-87e5-42ecee07fdcd@googlegroups.com> <87poqx96ul.fsf@handshake.de> <87bn2h85rn.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <8537nsvmbc.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87fursil2y.fsf@handshake.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Z/2JjP3o/2TJamh0oyJThQtJ7soR2e+QJlt7VWLO7F4Q== Cancel-Lock: sha1:wV0LFaEd0ZfJdfYCM8x2zYyiLPg= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'purpose.': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'parts,': 0.16; 'rather,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'subject:parameters': 0.16; 'success)': 0.16; 'nested': 0.18; 'transform': 0.18; 'decorator': 0.22; 'tried': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'function': 0.28; 'motivation': 0.29; 'previous': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'signature': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; 'names': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'received:de': 0.40; 'natural': 0.67; 'reply,': 0.72; '(apparently': 0.84; 'thing,': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57b39d7e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.4.22 (linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <87fursil2y.fsf@handshake.de> X-Mailman-Original-References: <85mvm5vrbw.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <0690f476-95ad-4dec-87e5-42ecee07fdcd@googlegroups.com> <87poqx96ul.fsf@handshake.de> <87bn2h85rn.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <8537nsvmbc.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:110947 Ben Finney writes: > ... > Rather, the motivation was that a complex thing, with many moving parts, > has an unexplained implementation: a nested set of functions without > names to explain their part in the pattern. In a previous reply, I have tried to explain (apparently without success) that the "thing" is not "complex" at all but a simple signature transform for a decorator definitition and that the nested function implementation is natural for this purpose.