Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'syntax': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'mostly': 0.14; 'choice,': 0.16; 'complaining': 0.16; 'docstrings': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; '3.0': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'ago': 0.33; 'johnson': 0.35; 'late': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'method': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'use.': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'introduced': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'subject:! ': 0.74; 'introduce': 0.78; "'new'": 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'received:108': 0.93; 'rick': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Python is DOOMED! Again! Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:20:04 -0500 References: <54c07d04$0$13012$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3fbbc664-ab4b-46e1-98a8-3859cb84fbb0@googlegroups.com> <8738738g5a.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <2d7880a5-9c2d-4a04-81f0-aa1e1d493e1a@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-108-16-203-145.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: <2d7880a5-9c2d-4a04-81f0-aa1e1d493e1a@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421954422 news.xs4all.nl 2942 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39414 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:84256 On 1/22/2015 3:24 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > Yes, YES, *YES*!!!! That would be my first choice, or > docstrings as a secondary. But to introduce new syntax > into the method signatures is SUICIDE! What the hell is > this man thinking? You are years late for complaining about new signature syntax. The 'new' annotation syntax was introduced 5+ years ago in 3.0 and is already being used for various purposes, but mostly for type hinting. The current proposal is to introduce a new module that standardizes the type-hinting use. It is true that it will likely make the use of annotation more common. -- Terry Jan Reedy