Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'static': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'purpose.': 0.07; '22,': 0.09; 'adopted': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'warn': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'direction?': 0.16; 'for"': 0.16; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'mode,': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4.27': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:out3-smtp.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'url:peps': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'url:dev': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'specifically': 0.29; 'external': 0.29; 'direction': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'checking.': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; '"the': 0.34; 'received:66': 0.35; 'tool': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'executing': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:10': 0.37; 'tools,': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'short': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'from:no real name:2**0': 0.61; 'extended': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'subject:! ': 0.74; 'analysis': 0.75; 'lack': 0.78; 'analyzed': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.us; h= message-id:x-sasl-enc:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh=ARIzUawFgN86ydB3p+s6UgDhUx8=; b=Y/LH LOplauhxyJD0mpM98i8HL/RhgVD/+uZ+5mcj5XnRlLPzWI4R070ptaGBcuDLdcWx dS0y58Wcq5uou1Hglb7fSUtPdOJOWivpNgHbXz/s7xhkr2LL1Gi7VRWCntqoChDV Oekwz6dkdCE9cPydFIwUflkUQnX00ZNkGVRFlsc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:x-sasl-enc:from:to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to :references:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=ARIzUawFgN86ydB3p+s6UgDh Ux8=; b=YeRd72cJoxLLu5Wt7vrUMbW6Lk8Oia028pdX/VuoQEuj1lY8k9H3N4xr aZOHgtvcJEx8siBSltyA6rHQ3ABHllG/YbQxQDTtiVnHFouNPy/9i11pP1SN/b7m vbIdIT3MUwEBwWxmCJrr1qBsi7vJwcUFFBRd8coS3ybG8/5Z1aA= X-Sasl-Enc: XjdocFxiMYs3kY5MOcsmNRyjLhxzPiCcbRvKcIFJcmr9 1421952089 From: random832@fastmail.us To: python-list@python.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-46f3f2c7 In-Reply-To: References: <54c07d04$0$13012$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1939680766443642112.878725sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> Subject: Re: Python is DOOMED! Again! Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:41:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421952098 news.xs4all.nl 2950 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46274 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:84249 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015, at 13:28, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Evidence in completely the opposite direction if I'm reading this > correctly https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0484/#usage-patterns > > "The main use case of type hinting is static analysis using an external > tool without executing the analyzed program. Existing tools used for > that purpose like pyflakes [pyflakes] or pylint [pylint] might be > extended to support type checking. New tools, like mypy's mypy -S mode, > can be adopted specifically for this purpose. How is that the opposite direction? It's a short jump from there to "pylint [or whatever tool] will consider a lack of type hinting to be something to warn for" and "managers/customers will consider this warning to mean your program has failed and is unacceptable".