Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'ignored': 0.07; 'url:products': 0.07; 'cherrypy': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'django': 0.11; '-tkc': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'https': 0.16; 'received:174.136': 0.16; 'sqlite': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'memory': 0.22; 'certainly': 0.24; 'handling': 0.26; 'nearly': 0.26; 'switch': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '[1]': 0.29; 'run': 0.32; 'linux': 0.33; 'worked': 0.33; 'ago': 0.33; 'minimal': 0.33; 'device': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'server': 0.38; '(i.e.,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'contract': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'embedded': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'system.': 0.39; 'world.': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'decided': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'services': 0.66; 'biggest': 0.67; 'quality': 0.72; 'footprint': 0.84; 'edwards': 0.91 X-Sender-Id: wwwh|x-authuser|tim@thechases.com X-Sender-Id: wwwh|x-authuser|tim@thechases.com X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: wwwh|x-authuser|tim@thechases.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: wwwh X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1421896836214:2885415566 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1421896836214 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:22:31 -0600 From: Tim Chase To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: What killed Smalltalk could kill Python In-Reply-To: References: <54bfd513$0$12978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: tim@thechases.com X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421896841 news.xs4all.nl 2850 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44672 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:84178 On 2015-01-21 23:10, Grant Edwards wrote: > I happily ignored PHP until a couple years back when we decided to > use PHP for the web site on a small embedded Linux system. [snip] > I briefly considered trying to switch to Python, but the Python > footprint is just too big... Interesting that your experience swung that way. I worked on a contract about a year ago where it involved deploying web services & ZigBee communications on a Digi Connectport[1] which is certainly a rather underpowered device (20MB of memory is tight). My biggest issue was the project-lead's choice of CherryPy and SQLObject...neither has nearly the same quality of documentation as I'd grown accustomed to in the Django world. Yet I was able to run an HTTPS CherryPy server talking to a local sqlite database with minimal trouble, handling a modest (i.e., small business) load. -tkc [1] http://www.digi.com/products/wireless-routers-gateways/gateways/xbee-gateway#specs