Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.224 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.61; '*S*': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'measures': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'else,': 0.19; 'solution.': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'themselves': 0.32; 'not.': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'passwords': 0.36; 'policies': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'capable': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'subject:Hello': 0.72; '2015': 0.84; 'subject:World': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'serious': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=Yh2AC2W4+hRbk+bh0k2PtYYhInxahMyJZcXn4GLrNBM=; b=UoXG0IgyuFflMPzfbJUCByshM3G7O2aawUBveD4pXWhjgd0ywl2T7XfZNd9TT9kDfQ 7++oCp2Gl/JO9wEu6N4afs5gW93ZGeiNXLbK1TxKvGyFOHPFfe3YcM3N5QbBoiynrzcw pIOLzHrLytj39uDxHQGLIyulbJPoed0c5QQgWC0r2LRXBNsRpWuNS8FvxR3vq9JBWhCw PHunum+W5CA9xdOuWToN8r8ZAy0nP4+AVTHnkqEYQZgFFhhX3f2Ody252rythSpAlobR olHvfxtNU6u9DyYoP5qoxxbR0iG63lUHHwpsJPYRFatJEVEtDbT2CSEjhGXwMR+1Wc3r UWfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.66.179 with SMTP id g19mr11886000igt.34.1421575807105; Sun, 18 Jan 2015 02:10:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87bnlwl81r.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <54957226$0$12975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54ae7b75$0$15900$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <54ba76e0$0$15897$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <54baf443$0$13002$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87bnlwl81r.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:10:06 +1100 Subject: Re: Hello World From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 17:11:00 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421597461 news.xs4all.nl 2914 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37602 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83987 On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Michael Torrie : > >> Most password policies are the wrong solution. > > I believe passwords themselves are the wrong solution. I believe in a > physical, government-issue object capable of challenge-response. It can > then be beefed up with extra measures depending on the need. I can't tell whether you're serious or not. Do you actually trust "government-issue" more than anything else, or is your tongue firmly in your cheek? Also, which government? ChrisA