Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.138 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.77; '*S*': 0.05; 'profits': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; '"just"': 0.16; 'for,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'push': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'see,': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'are.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.38; 'most': 0.60; 'more': 0.64; 'yes': 0.68; 'subject:Hello': 0.72; 'banks': 0.74; '2015': 0.84; 'minister': 0.91; 'subject:World': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=4LeC8rAnwPiHpDEk98H1Nry9lU7gQ92htXTaduMtVnY=; b=r2+pTVoLn7G+OqD6a6JMyIOfL/C2GA2vySOmHmIspWHcNwBic/JxhKWk0thnUHjjTV u7u4NQiQEAf2O4vaiK8dOvER102ekR/jo1bQCjU1EO+G+kdYFm6G2iTZnhnDwdADWxgm cZNGCO6O6CJeZreF3M1/mGOZNQUEAjnFQ7ymdxgZ1RJOSs8/PP3Mly0hEK3WmX1mRMwz koN/j6YDAKX2AOlPWPaDFe6JJueqjFehkqhS9USB/hysvf01rDUhwJBxTZSnHeEmrnir DviQfZl3f1mIr74Orij+NTlPtm3I0AEaIbRumyB+SMXEsciTFucrAFa211sqpth6CiIK JUVw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.94.14 with SMTP id z14mr21876844icm.59.1421567121743; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:45:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54bb2c5f$0$12977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <54957226$0$12975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54ba76e0$0$15897$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <54baa4b1$0$15857$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <54bb1c83$0$12979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54bb2c5f$0$12977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 18:45:21 +1100 Subject: Re: Hello World From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421567125 news.xs4all.nl 2941 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37178 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83969 On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (I am very cynical about most of the "security features" the banks are > pushing for, since in my opinion they are more about giving the banks > plausible deniablity so they can push responsibility for security breaches > onto the customer.) Definitely they are. Banks don't care about customers, they care about profits. James Hacker: I see, it's just profits, isn't it, Sir Desmond? Sir Desmond: It's not "just" profits - it's profits! -- Yes Minister ChrisA