Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.081 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.84; '*S*': 0.00; 'argument': 0.05; 'root': 0.05; 'logic': 0.09; 'root,': 0.09; 'configure.': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'sudo': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'user.': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'van': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "we're": 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'guess': 0.33; 'reader': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'message- id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'course': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'accounts': 0.64; 'laptop': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'subject:Hello': 0.72; 'cut': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'quicker': 0.84; 'albert': 0.91; 'subject:World': 0.91 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 09:29:23 -0700 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Hello World References: <54957226$0$12975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54ae7b75$0$15900$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <54ba76e0$0$15897$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <54ba76e0$0$15897$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421512178 news.xs4all.nl 2879 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39279 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83930 On 01/17/2015 07:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >> accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! > > I didn't except this strawman argument from you. > Of course you need a distinction between doing system things as > root, and working as a normal user. You just don't need sudo. I just don't see the distinction. What's the difference between having to type in a root password and having to type in your own administrative user password? Guess we're all just struggling to understand your logic here. On my laptop sudo has a huge advantage over su, and that is I can use my fingerprint reader to access root. Now I could set up root to accept a fingerprint as well which would work with su, but the sudo solution is much quicker to configure.