Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!lightspeed.eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.130 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.79; '*S*': 0.05; 'argument': 0.05; 'root': 0.05; 'root,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'user.': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'van': 0.27; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'run': 0.32; 'could': 0.34; 'except': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'course': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'subject:Hello': 0.72; 'cut': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'account.': 0.80; '2015': 0.84; 'learn.': 0.84; 'albert': 0.91; 'subject:World': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=OXB2MlQEPwPTAfZuKiLEpWusPz/PMWoCS7/PQK948aM=; b=vw+xx9QQlY4ACMNMDo8sP5aVsIrG+FwkBPZcpooGFbPv2A5R+7mJrZxVG1JvVV0QRY 5QarbbYn4hWsP97f3QSXTjSwCxk3ykx1d9yQcLJmqVqbVd9b7To2Jnvtiph46pydrhYP lOdYyY4rEXIu8AKUssS24hEAwjqjZRJJsWWu40MEohNdNFSmUVwOjCtEFBttaQ4sXgVG jCvpFJjKZ673HFy+lxVUKak3fv/6W4ryjJOE8ABUdDD05Kbs1qoslTTD1rWh6vo7IJgn U5zIAkz9EGDWtwa93Mwp5k7PEEoWWvgrmQXuf9NsYlA2AFs8fEs3Qt2p00GFxarh3xGW LhuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.18.108 with SMTP id v12mr9513884igd.34.1421506634827; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 06:57:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54ba76e0$0$15897$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> References: <54957226$0$12975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54ae7b75$0$15900$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> <54ba76e0$0$15897$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 01:57:14 +1100 Subject: Re: Hello World From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421506643 news.xs4all.nl 2884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54042 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 3940 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1506107991 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83926 On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >>But sure. If you want to cut out complication, dispense with user >>accounts altogether and run everything as root. That's WAY simpler! > > I didn't except this strawman argument from you. > Of course you need a distinction between doing system things as > root, and working as a normal user. You just don't need sudo. So you have to have a password on the root account. My systems are more secure, as they do not have a password that someone could learn. ChrisA